ABOUT THAT PS3: Sony's recent woes...this shit is funny...

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  1. Money Greene

    Money Greene Da Man-Da Myth-Da Legend

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    no they are not. The P stands for Progressive, the I stands for Interlaced. Progressive has more lines in it than interlaced and thats why 1080P looks better than 1080I....google it.
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  2. LiQuiD6

    LiQuiD6 Left hook Justice

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    yep...ive been saying this....FOREVER........


    this isnt the same situation...but its similar in its ripoff.......


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    Theres a new version of the Mp3 format coming out...with even smaller file sizes...and higher compression quality.......

    we have a new ipod that specifically plays those files......

    it is 500 dollars........but it will only play the new mp3's at a degraded bit rate....thats slightly better then your old mp3...but still not the best it can be

    or you can give us 600 dollars and we will give you an unlocked version that lets you play the whole song
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  3. Embassy Sweetz

    Embassy Sweetz 360's thee-shit,-b

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    lmao and my point is proven...

    money greene broke it down.
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  4. LiQuiD6

    LiQuiD6 Left hook Justice

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    yes and no.....

    the difference is......1080i is interlaced so it shows an image by drawing 2 sets of pictures......one with even lines...one with odd lines....kind of like shutters on a window......when you push a button......even rows flip one way....and then you push another button the odd row of shutters move.....but the tv does this really really fast.....drawing the image.....but this causes inconsistencies in the picture because those shutters dont measure up exactly...so it causes jaggy lines

    1080p is progressive....meaning it just draws the whole picture at once......so theres no room for error in the image.......so you get a sharper clearer image......

    the problem with the ps3 is.......if you buy the 500 dollar system.....you cant use progressive scan at 1080 on your movies because the port that allows you to get the signal isnt on the machine......the ps3 is reproducing it.....but theres no way to get it to your tv cause the only cable that can carry that signal doesnt have a way to plug in to the machine.....so the ps3 CAN do it..but sony just wont let it happen....so they just give you HALF of the picture quality at 540p


    so you have to buy the 600 dollar one to unlock the full hd quality of the machine and get that port
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  5. kojo

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    one thing people have to keep in mind is that Blu-Ray/HD-DVD is going to become as mainstream as DVDs within 5 years to a decade. Getting a Blu-Ray with the PS3 is actually a bargain at this point and time when you see the price of a standalone player. The PS3 does more than just games and video, its a media center so yeah it costs a lot, but it is supposed to be around for a lot longer than the PS/PS2 were before a "new" console pops up and due to that expensive blu-ray being with it, i DOUBT the price comes down anytime soon. It was like 2-3 years before the PS2 price dropped right?

    the premium Xbox isnt really that much cheaper when you factor the HD-DVD into play but at least with that you have a CHOICE. I think the PS3 will do fine, BUT it will lose a chunk of its market share to Microsoft and Nintendo. Nintendo is going to clean up big time i think since their Wii is supposed to be less than 200 bucks. everyone and their cousin can buy that shyt, thats an impulse buy even if theres only a handfull of games on there that are appealing.

    I plan on buying a Wii this year and getting a PS3 next year or the year after that...
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  6. LiQuiD6

    LiQuiD6 Left hook Justice

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    thats the thing......buying a ps3 as a longterm investment only makes sense if your paying 600 for all of its features......the 500 dollar system completely makes owning the system at that price point rediculously useless as a "media" machine...
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  7. Embassy Sweetz

    Embassy Sweetz 360's thee-shit,-b

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    man i will bet u money that blu-ray and HD-DVD WILL NOT be the univeral media standard in 5-10 years or EVER....DVDs are only 5-7 years old...they gotta good 5 years left...and by that time...everything will be down through downloads...u wont even buy flicks no more..u'll just go to " blockbuster.com" on your comp or HD TV and Download a HD movie and watch it...i mean shit they already doin that with on-demand movies and shit...
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  8. LiQuiD6

    LiQuiD6 Left hook Justice

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    dvd's are 10 years old already .......they came out in 96

    i think hd dvd and blue ray will catch on before downloading movies in hd........simply because there wont be a writable hd format for a while that will be easy to hack or affordable enough......and besides......hdtv will be a lot more popular in 5 years.......you wont want to use your regular discs on your new tv........shit i know right now i wish my dvd's were in hd......
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  9. Mr. sickVisionz

    Mr. sickVisionz The Gentleman's Producer

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    I'm not even sure if the PS3 is a "media machine". It plays Blu-Rays just like the PS2 plays DVDs. My X-Box could already rip CDs and let me play MP3s and shit. PS3 needs to basically have some shit thats like I can play DivX, XVID, MPEG, WMV etc files off rip in order for me to call it a real deal "media machine". Anything less than that was done 4 years ago when the X-Box came out.
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  10. Embassy Sweetz

    Embassy Sweetz 360's thee-shit,-b

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    96...yeh but be real...DVDs didnt become popular till like 2000-ish ...so u tellin me...if we use DVDS as an example...that if BR comes out in 06...that itll take till 2011 for them to become standard and u dont think we'll have universal digital downloads by then..???...we already GOT basic digital downloads now...

    the ONLY Thing BR or HD-DVD will be good for is as a mass storage device for comp files and shit...but its just not practical for a standard medium for anyhing else right now..and by the time it become cheap enough for everyone to buy...digital downloads will be common place...
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  11. Embassy Sweetz

    Embassy Sweetz 360's thee-shit,-b

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    im sure it can do alot of that shit..its basically a computer than just so happens to play games...but u know wat they say...a jack of many trades but a master of none....
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  12. Creative Silence

    Creative Silence CreativeSilence, Inc.

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    yEA THEY SAID YOU COULD SURF THE WEB WITH THE ps3. Flop.
    Blue Ray Drive. Flop.
    360 coming out with the hd-dvd drive right before ps3's launch....smh...
    External power supply, about the size of the xbox...Flop.

    And what are niggaz going say 1.5 years from now...."I remember when ps2 was out".....Flop
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  13. kojo

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    i had gotten a DVD player for X-mas in 98 lol, they were real popular back then. but in 96 when i first started hearing about them in Next Generation Magazine (remember that shit? i got a 2 years subscription for buying a PSX at launch LOL) they were expensive as fuck and i was thinking the same thing youre thinking now: "who the fuck wants to use that when VHS is good" "they gonna put this expensive shyt in future game systems? WTF i just want games". thats the thing about technology, the price comes down a bit after they develop more efficient techniques to manufacture them and we all know how it is in the computer world, just look at the PS2 they sell now compared to the one that dropped back in 2000 in just size/parts alone...

    another funny thing is if we adjust the price of the PS3 and Xbox 360 to consoles that were released in the past such as the NES, atari 2600, and SNES for inflation the prices are actually very close...the NES when it first dropped in todays dollars would be as much as a PS3, i saw a chart of it in some magazine, ill try to find it.

    I DOUBT the PS3 will flop just because of the games/3rd party support it has compared to doomed consoles of the past like the dreamcast, 3DO, turbo grafix, etc, but I would put money on it that it will lose a lot of market share to Nintendo and Microsoft here in the states in the short term...it wont be nearly as dominant as the previous generation was until more killer apps drop, price comes down, and people start exploiting what the thing can really do.
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  14. LiQuiD6

    LiQuiD6 Left hook Justice

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    you wont see downloads become mainstream because we dont have download speeds that can deliver hd content to the mass market at those speeds......your not streaming HD video with a 350k cable connnection..sorry...it aint happening......the cable companies right now have problems just sending HDTV signals through your cable box....which is why they HEAVILY compress the signal coming into tv's......yes hdtv's can look even better then they do now without all the heavy compression....that is why BLUE RAY is here.....to take away compression and give you the full extent of what your paying for in the first place....not some half assed compressed version of it....

    so DEF not...you DEF wont see lots of HD downloads in the near future....def not for full legnth movies until there is first a change in the download speeds through broadband internet
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  15. Embassy Sweetz

    Embassy Sweetz 360's thee-shit,-b

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    by 2011...wont we have internet through the powerlines...??..i remember someone saying that that will be the new standard...and thats its going to be on some t3 type of speed...

    and as i said..even if we odnt have full downloads..theres still on-demand type of services which will slowly make hard copy movies obsolete..especially when they have more bandwidth to play with...
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  16. Embassy Sweetz

    Embassy Sweetz 360's thee-shit,-b

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    nah u got it wrong...see...BR isnt a natural progression..if u look at the most popular devices that have become household standards u will notice that all of those devices met a need and made life more convienient....

    look at VHS to DVD....

    wats the diff...???


    VHS-
    grainy picture
    tapes were pretty fragile...
    tapes had " tracking" issues lol i hated that
    had to manually FF and RW
    were pretty bulky

    now look wat DVD brought to the table

    great picture
    hooks up to any TV
    has multiple FF RW speeds
    had menu selection
    DVDs last forever
    Small and compact

    u see wat im sayin..???..DVDS made watching movies at home more convienient and therefore became a standard form of media...same with the ipod...it doesnt have the best sound quality..but its more convienient than carrying a CD player and a case full od CD's....

    so wat does BR bring to the table over DVD..??

    Blu-Ray
    slightly better picture
    slightly better sound
    only works on high end TV's
    more storage space..

    thats it...it doesnt make watching movies any easier and barely changes the experience...u think something that minimal will draw peoples attention..???..hell no...its too short of a leap...the visual quality from VHS to DVD was DRASTIC...but from DVD to BR or HD-DVD isnt....

    now look at digital downloads...

    no physical discs to lose or scratch
    no lasers or disc trays to break or worry about
    you can control and navigate through your entire movie collection with just your remote without even getting up
    comes in standard and HD signals so they can be used with any TV
    no going to the store to buy movies

    see how more convienient that is..?? thats the next logical step...not another disc format...
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  17. kojo

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    you have a point there, but Hollywood and the Porn industry may disagree with us. I think the leap to a new disc format is going to be heavily influenced by them trying to crack down on pirating but who knows, only time will tell....
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  18. Creative Silence

    Creative Silence CreativeSilence, Inc.

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    Nope.
    By 2009 Wireless broadband (using attenna poles) will be the new standard with higher download speeds that surpass the current speeds by a huge leap. DSL is trying to look for new ways to compete with these speeds with ADSL & VDSL. Other Euro countries using Wireless broadband to connect those who live on islands and in mountains where cabled wires are hard to be implemented.

    VOIP, HDTV are becoming a new household standard and cable/phone companies are looking for better connection speeds to stream HD movies and channels aswell as for video recording, aswell as connect areas that cannot be connected with Cabled wires.
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  19. Premize Prod

    Premize Prod aka reggie kush

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    exacly lmao. thats niggas play out here. not like im gonna go run and get "insert nerd game here". so that shit aint that important. ill just continue to play madden on xbox.

    ioh and fight night round 3.
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  20. Ejuhcaited

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    10-15 downloaded movies or so (remember, quality standards will be higher which means higher file sizes, so that's where I'm pulling my figure from) and your Hard Drive is fucking full! So if you want more movies, you'll keep havin to by more HDs.

    While you could have one small ass rack with your Blu Ray cases and discs. It doesn't need a fan to keep it cool. You don't run the risk of dropping it accidently, and losing hundreds of gigs of data, that took you MONTHS to download. You don't run the risk of files getting fragmented on your Blu Ray discs.
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