i've never been caught, and i've never been in an accident that comment i made earlier was a little drastic. i actually don't mind civic si's cuz they start out @ a 15.7, which is like a focus SVT, and actually even faster than stock automatic SLs... but seriously though, even if i get beat by a civic (which wont happen cuz i refuse to race them) its stilla civic. and that's the end of that. no, i'm in central... but fuck yah i'll race u i don't give a fuck. especially if u wanna race in the SUMMER? iight then, lets do it. tape it. we'll go from a dig, and a roll. thats idiotic. ok, using that logic a viper is not faster than me cuz ive never raced one That's a fair statement. but look, my car is looooow 15. second, most of the cars on the road are like 16's, and even most of the sports cars are high 15, celica gts, rsx, etc.... i agree though, that 14's are a benchmark of a car will some pull. in my book if u can hit a 14, the car has some pep in it. 13's are fast, and 12s and below are fucking fast and virtually unbeatable.