50 Greatest Battlers of All-Time: MC Juice

Discussion in 'The 50 Greatest Battle Rappers of All-Time' started by gregrieke20, Sep 27, 2010.

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  1. reznick

    reznick New Member

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    That was dope!

    I like how you added "controversial" when describing the Nat battle. That needed to be said.


    If I had to nit pick I would agree that the "was" in the first sentence should be an "is".


    But great shit, keep it up
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  2. Blah Blah

    Blah Blah New Member

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    I think the "was" to "is" in the first sentence is an extremely important change for more then one reason.

    He isn't dead and should still be considered a current amazing freestyler unless he had some accident where he is slow or can't speak anymore.

    This is a cool project. I'd buy this.
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  3. gregrieke20

    gregrieke20 Well-Known Member

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    The "is" for "was" thing is a good point. The whole reasoning behind it is that he is no longer an active battler, hence "was". This book was inspired from a few books I own listing the greatest football and baseball players.

    Former players, though still alive, were referred to in the past tense. "Jim Brown WAS a powerful running back". The issue is Juice still IS a great freestyler, but I just didn't want it to say "is", "does", etc. that might imply that he is still an active battler.

    Perhaps I could change that first sentence to "When he battled, MC Juice was an unbelievable freestyler."?

    I don't know, does that take away from how strong it sounds?
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  4. Freebass

    Freebass NAH NUDDAH

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    he is still an ubelievable freestyler though, he has not stopped doing this, it is not really the same as football or any sport....those guys will always be talents, but they lose the physical ability to play at a peak level, and they retired, so they are done playing
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  5. TheOmega

    TheOmega Well-Known Member

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    yea but still you HAVE to freestyle everyday to be at the top of your game.
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  6. D-Lor

    D-Lor Well-Known Member

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    Using the past tense is correct language usage.
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  7. gregrieke20

    gregrieke20 Well-Known Member

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    I feel you, and thats why I said he still IS an amazing freestyler, but guys who are done battling, I want it to seem like their careers are in the past tense. I'm not sure why exactly, but I definitely do (I just think it adds to the "legendary" feeling. If they are still openly active obviously it will all be in the present tense)

    Maybe the sentences talking about his music/freestyle ability can be in the present tense, and the parts referring to his battling career can be in the past? I'm sure there's some way of doing it without messing with the overall "feel" of the bio.
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  8. gregrieke20

    gregrieke20 Well-Known Member

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    D-lor's pretty smart, this may be good enough for me, lol.
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  9. Elaquent

    Elaquent Gill Breathing

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    Juice can still hang with anybody on some freestyle shit today, should say IS instead of WAS, i agree, whether he's past his prime or not.
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  10. gregrieke20

    gregrieke20 Well-Known Member

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    Well whatever the answer is I just want to make sure its right. And I definitely agree that in a freestyle battle, there are few that could hang with Juice even today.
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  11. RegularJoe

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    Lor is right from a language perspective which is what I was going for. I have to keep the tense consistent throughout that first paragraph, which also discusses people not believing Juice was freestyling in the past tense. So keeping that first sentence in the past tense makes sense from a grammatical standpoint if not in terms of Juice as an active freestyler today.

    Greg, i like the way you have it edited. I was thinking something like "In his prime, MC Juice was an unbelievable freestyler" which kinda speaks to both points.

    I'm cool either way obviously.
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  12. RegularJoe

    RegularJoe Well-Known Member

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    And I wanted to come in here for the young bucks who might not know just how ill of a freestyler we're talking about here and post up a few of these ...

    [youtube]f7QJryv65Ms[/youtube]

    [youtube]BMzMFDyPW8o[/youtube]
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  13. iSick303

    iSick303 knew pac, pop

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    didnt em lose to rhymefest before his loss to juice? cuz the bio said it was em's first loss. i thought that rhymefest had won against em, then stepped out of the competition because he didnt wanna battle juice? i could be wrong tho
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  14. RegularJoe

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    Em has said in interviews before that the L to Juice was the first of his career.

    I know that him and 'Fest battled, but I'm not sure it was at Scribble '97 and I'm not sure who took the W in that one.
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  16. gregrieke20

    gregrieke20 Well-Known Member

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    Actually yea, they're definitely right. Em lost to Fest first, then Fest bowed out cuz he didn't want to battle his friend (Juice) and so Em was allowed to advance.

    Not sure how I forgot about that, but I'll basically just take out that sentence I suppose.
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  17. gregrieke20

    gregrieke20 Well-Known Member

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    I just remembered an interview where Em was like "It was the first time I had lost a battle" or something like that, and he was talking about Scribble 97 and I must've just associated it with Juice and forgotten about Fest altogether.
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  18. Diggles

    Diggles Fred Durst's Life Coach

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    Honestly bro.. all the same comments I left for the first few, I'd basically be repeating myself if I said them here. The layout is dope, clean and crisp. The pics are extremely interesting, very appealing.. However, I actually preferred the writing style in this one as opposed to the others. More centred and focused. RegularJoe did an awesome job with the first ones, but as a matter of preference, I like this style better. Find it more suitable.

    Cheers.

    EDIT: Didn't know RJ was still doing them.
    In which case, a little improved from the last few, def like the direction he took with the last one.
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  19. Mistake

    Mistake Dougie Darko

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    duece leader may not of been that great at his craft but he allways deserves a mention when scribble jam is brought up.. And he also claims to be the only one ever to make juice shut the fuck when stage dived in that battle.. again duece was not a great emcee but he was decent and is alegend in terms of scribble jam
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  20. TWAMP$iN

    TWAMP$iN proper weaponry

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    J-U Ice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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