3 Way Battle pt. 1 (Eminem vs. Nas vs. Jay-Z)

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Whose the best between these three?

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  1. Hizzle

    Hizzle New Member

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    Show me proof



    i have asked for it so many times, and you reply with no points, just more text



    quote something, outline it...PROVE IT!
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  2. Hizzle

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    No, i'm actually trying to initiate actual debate, i'm looking for ANYTHING BUT a stalemate, as i am asking you to furnish one measly ounce of proof



    and you refuse to do it, beating around the bush each time



    everybody is noticing this




    Here once more, i ask



    PROVE ANYTHING?
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  3. Hizzle

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    No, my posts are not "your proof"


    i have shown facts, and broke down the rhyme structure, you broke down the rhyme structure wrong, i showed you the rhyme structure, you won't show a rhyme structure, you just made one up real quick, and it is nowhere close


    go back to your passage and prove that you are right.


    because you aren't, and you know this, that is why you avoid doing anything factual like the plague.
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  4. Hizzle

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    You assumed wrong



    you know 0 about poetry, nor lymric.


    You have yet to prove anything structurally, nor syntax wise...



    you going to show anything or just beat around the bush?
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  5. Hizzle

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    Back up your guarntee



    go find a Nas verse and prove what you say is correct


    I'll be here, you post it and i will outline the structure correctly, and you will sit here and say "no no no that's not right, but i don't know why, and i won't show why, because i can't"



    Moron this, Moron that, you won't show anything...EVER



    SHOW ME SOMETHING
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  6. Hizzle

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    and no, i don't twist any definitions, i argue the definitions that coincide with music, which is what we are arguing...



    if you want to argue literature, we can do that too


    but again, you don't know anything about it



    and will not show anything...



    your next post better show me something...this is ridiculous you are avoiding showing anything because you know you are wrong...



    you can make all the shit up you want, unless you list some facts, you're WRONG
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  7. Hizzle

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    Did Pun rhyme fast?



    in a word, yes.
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  8. Hizzle

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    and let me ask you this, IS pun known for a rapid flow?


    or did you make that up like everything else you said...



    did you take a poll?



    did you ask Jesus?



    ...



    you gonna back anything up yet or just say a bunch of useless horse shit?
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  9. Prominance

    Prominance I'm Blacker, Trust Me

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    You just posted a definition for lyric. The definition I posted was lyrical. Lyrical is an adjective. You do not say "he wrote some lyrical". Being lyrical is what was defined in websters. The noun form of lyrical, lyrics refers to something different, the words of a song or verse, whatever. When you say he is lyrical it means emotional. QUit arguing what is right infront of you

    acceleration DOES NOT mean you are going at a fast speed. Changing speed from 1 mile per second to two miles per second is acceleration. Yet if a car did this people would say it still was going slow as shit compared to how fast cars generally go. Tonedeff has a stacatto AND rapid flow, he accelerates his flow and his flow is at a relatively high speed.

    Again what imaginary heads have said this. Please, PLEASE show someone else apart from you Andy who has said this. Big Pun doesnt flow that rapidly, but he certainly flows faster on average than other rappers.

    If we did a syllable count of how many he has per bar I bet it would be more than your average rapper. Yes sometimes Pub rhymed fast. Not very fast like Twista or Tonedeff but at a decent speed. Stacatto flow is hard to do because you need good breadth control, its hard to continously spit syllables with no pauses. Same for rapid flow where you trying to cram as many syllables as possible in a bar. Some rappers do both. Tonedeff is an excellent example. Twista is the extreme of rapid flow but he has short pauses between bars, hence his flow aint stacatto.

    NEXT......
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  10. ANDtheMC

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    I gotta show you proof that you're a moron for sayin' Prominance "sonned" me in an argument he agrees with me on more than he agrees with you? lmfao...

    stupidity!
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  11. ANDtheMC

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    Once again, this is you runnin' from an argument...

    And you AGAIN, are showin' your stupidity cuz all you do is contradict your own words... One second, (in the beginning) you were sayin' everyone agrees wit me... Next second, Prominance (more intelligent than anyone agreeing with you) agrees with me and you say: "I don't care who agrees with who"

    lmfao...

    Then, we use dictionary.com definitions and you point to the one's you feel suit your argument... When I drop on that shows you're wrong, you said: "We're not talkin' about definitions"... (I believe that was you who said it - maybe it was Format - one of your defenders)...

    Once again, I've proved your rhyme structure was wrong by showin' you that you're "perception"/"understanding" of rhyme is wrong... That alone kills any argument you have, PERIOD
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  12. ANDtheMC

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    yes, they are proof that you have no argument

    and yes you did all that but you did it WRONG!... you're done
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  13. ANDtheMC

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    You have yet to prove anything PERIOD, except your lack of knowledge and the fact that your school either sucks or you just didn't learn a thing.... I'm assuming the latter (and this time, I don't think "I assume wrong")

    All you've proved is you know nothing about rhyming PERIOD
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  14. ANDtheMC

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    no, I said ANY VERSE.... go find a verse to back up your statement that he NEVER changes rhyme schemes... LMFAO... Which to you, states it's not in syntax... Which shows you're contradicting yourself... Stupidity
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  15. ANDtheMC

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    MORE REPETITIVE NONSENSE FROM YOU AGAIN!!! *yawns* bring somethin' new to the table...
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  16. ANDtheMC

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    I named a song..... Listen to it... There's a rapid flow... He's sayin' his words slow... try again
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  17. ANDtheMC

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    stupidity... if you even have to ask that, go learn somethin'....

    Wow, you just proved you are truly dumb with this one... g'job
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  18. ANDtheMC

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    obviously... I even fuckin' mentioned that... And I even mentioned lyrical is an adjective... But we're goin' by dictionary.com right? "2" in the definitions is lyric...

    And no, according to dictionary.com, lyric is the second definition... lyricalness is the noun of lyrical and lyrically is the adverb...

    I'm not arguing what's right in front of me... Since we're goin' by dictionary.com, lyric is a second definition of lyrical... You're arguing what's RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU

    http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=lyrical

    NAHH REALLY!!! I didn't say it means you're goin' fast... Did you not read that I said INCREASING SPEED? Goin' from 1 mile per second to 2 miles per second is an INCREASE IN SPEED, is it not? c'mon man, why're you statin' the obvious that I already stated makin' it seem like you're actually teachin' someone somethin'

    okay, if you've never read/heard someone say Kane and Rakim originated the multi-syllabic style and the rapid flow from the pause 'n go flow, go read more on them and listen to more heads speak about 'em...

    And Pun's flow was a rapid flow... Even producers that worked with 'em talked about how he ran outta breath du' to his rapid flow and he had to do punch-ins... You can spit FAST AS FUCK but if you got big pauses, you wouldn't run outta breath... That's obvious right? Unless you're holdin' your breath during your pauses but that's just stupidity... Seriously, keep tryin'

    There's Pun songs where he's obviously rhymin' slow paced and it's still a rapid flow... Once again, I named tracks... The one du' that actually questioned me asked for tracks, went 'n listened, and said he knew what I was talkin' 'bout now and agreed... Go check out those tracks 'n maybe you'll learn somethin' too

    yup, I'm still waitin' too
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  19. Hizzle

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    No i asked you to show something...how quickly you back down from actually furnishing anything.
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  20. Hizzle

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    i'm sorry i asked you to back up all of your complete lies.
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