150 years of evolution mantra PART ONE

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  1. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    What happened in the 150 years since evolution has became a popular theory ? A lot.

    Jame Hutton 1726-1796, in his book "Theory of the Earth" he states the earth is much older than most people thought. This started some to doubt the Bible was true. His book had a big influence on a Scottish lawyer name Charles Lyell.

    Lyell wrote a book in 1830 called "In the Minds of Men" In this book he developed what we call today the geological column and the "Principles of Geology"

    The geological column goes like this:

    1. Cretaceous
    2. Jurassic
    3. Triassic
    4. Permian
    5. carboniferous
    6. Devonian
    7. Silurian
    8. Cambrian

    Something like that. This column does not exist any place in the world, except in the text books. It is pure imagination. All the evolution theory is biased on this dumb book, made up in 1830.

    F. Sherwood Taylor Geology Changes the Outlook - Curator of the Museum of the History of Science, Oxford, England.

    He is right about that. And England is a pagan nation for sure. I'm not sure if America was ever Christian or not, but it is a pagan nation today. What has happened ?

    Charles Lyell's book had a very influential impact on a young preacher name Charles Darwin. Darwin's brought his bible and Charles Lyell's book "Principles of Geology" on his five year voyage. Lyell's book changed his life forever.

    Darwin graduating from bible college to become a preacher and in 1859, after 22 years of writing he finally published his book "Origin of Species" (the book actually has a longer name but it has been shorted today because it's more politically correct). His philosophy was strongly influence by people like Lyell and Thomas Matthus who taught that more offspring were produced than could possibly survive with a limited food supply. It was then best if the weakest died off. You first Thomas.

    That book also influenced Dickens. When he wrote The Christmas Carol, remember the line when Scrooge said " if he is going to die let him die, it's going to increase the surplus nation" ? You can't understand the history of it until you understand the history of evolution.

    So,

    1795 - we have James Hutton's Book " Theory of the Earth" This made people doubt the earth was 6,000 years old. Then along came Charlie Lyell and his "Principles of Geology". People then began to doubt the flood (1830). So, instead of the flood making all those layers, maybe they are all a different age...

    Then along comes Charlie Darwin and his book the "Origin of Species (1859) and he made people doubt the creator. In the mid 1800s the western World was left in a bad situation. If there was no God, who is in charge ? Must be us, right ? No.

    This lead directly to the rise of Humanism. Humanism is a teaching where there is no God, so man must be god, we make the rules. We decide what's right and wrong. For the next 50 years, after Darwin's book came out many 'isms" arose around the world. Humanism, racism, communism, Nazism, and plans for a NEW WORLD ORDER. Communism would have just been a foot note in history books if evolution would not of come along. Darwin gave justification to that dumb idea.

    Fred Hoyle

    You are so correct Fred. Once you start believing there is no God and we are in charge, then we are in serous trouble. Some say, either there is a God or there is not, and both possibilities are frightening. If there is a God we better find out who he is, what he wants from us and listen to what he says. If there is no God, we are in trouble, cause we are hurdling through space at 66,000 miles per hour and nobody is in charge. That's a pretty scary thought.

    Charles Darwin said,

    Charles Darwin, Life and Letters

    Well Charlie, you did indeed devote your life to a fantasy. IF you believe you came from a rock 4.6 billion years ago you need help. You were designed for a purpose, what is it.

    There are four great questions every great religion tires to answer, even atheism, which is a religion, you have to believe there is no God. There is no way to know that. So, four great questions.

    1. Who am I
    2. Where do I come from
    3. Why am I here
    4. Where am I going once I die

    The way you answer these questions depends on how you view the world. There are basically only two ways to look at this world: One view says there is incredible design, there must be a designer. The Creationist world view. Other people look at the world, and say nobody made it, it just made itself. They don't believe God created the world, they think a big bang made this world from nothing. This is called the Humanist world view. The world just made itself.

    The first chapter in the Humanist Manifesto states

    (notice the capital U to deify universe). This is the first thing you have to agree to , to be a humanist. In 1973 the Humanist Manifesto II came out and in 2000 the Human Manifesto III came out. They declare what they believe. It Is a religion. You have to believe there is no God.

    So why is this theory dangerous ? Evolution is the foundation for communism, Marxism, socialism, Nazism, racism.

    1. evolution is bad science, biased on lies. There is no scientific evidence to back evolution theory.

    2. There is no evidence at ALL that any kind of animal produced a new animal. So why would anybody believe in such a dumb idea ?

    One text book says

    Richard C. Lwewontin

    Sounds like he is open minded for a discussion, right ? lol This fact of evolution is a MANTRA. They say this over and over and over, hoping that it comes true. That's all it is. They just keep repeating it. It's a fact, it's a fact, it's a fact...no it's not.

    Text books say evolution has evidence from fossils,from development, from molecular biology. Any evidence use to support evolution has been proven wrong. If you took all the lies out of the texts books, there would be nothing left to support the dumb theory. They want you to believe it, get it ? That is why the lies stay in there, because they have nothing else to replace it with. Evolution is dumb. Get a new theory.
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  2. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    LIES IN THE TEXT BOOKS

    1. The Colorado River was not formed slowly

    2. The geological column does not portray the earth's history. It exist nowhere but in text books

    3. Rocks do not date the fossils and the fossils do not date the rocks

    4. There are no index fossils, and fossils are not different ages (petrified trees standing up, connection all the layers at once prove layers were made at the same time)

    5. Plants and animals are not related to one another. They have the same designer, not the same uncle or grandpa

    6. Change in species is not the real meaning of evolution. There is a whole lot more to this.

    7. Natural Selection does not cause any evolution. natural selection, selects. It does not create a thing.

    8. Peppered moth story -never happened.
    9. Comparative Anatomy does not prove evolution

    10. Human embryos do not have gill slits (abortion is murder)

    11. The appendix is not vestigial. You need it.

    12 The whale does not have a vestigial pelvis

    13. The human tail bone is not vestigial

    14 Dinosaurs did not live millions of years ago

    15. Man did not evolve from animals or cave men

    16. The big bang is a big blank. It did not happen

    17 The Horse series in your text books is a lie. Prove to be false 50 years ago

    18. Life cannot evolve from non living matter

    19. Smaller is not simpler. Smaller is more complex. A little paramecium is more complex than a space shuttle.

    20 Birds did not come from dinosaurs. Dumb idea.

    21. The eye did not arrive by slow changes over billions of years

    22. The first birds did not hatch from reptile eggs

    23. The tree of life in the text books are pure imagination. They did not happen, it's on paper and that is as far as it goes. Did not happen in reality.

    24. DNA does not prove evolution. It proves a designer

    25. Fossils don not provide any evidence for evolution. Fossils do not count at all. IF you find a bone in the dirt, you can't prove that bone had any kids, let alone kids that lived to have more kids. And certainly not kids that were different than the grand parents. Fossils are simply a dead end street and do not count for evolution.

    26. The earth is not billions of years old. It was never a hot molten mass

    27. Pangaea never existed

    28. Animals and plants were designed, not adapted to their environments

    29. There are NO SIMPLE LIVING ORGANISMS

    30. Life did not arise 3.5 billion years ago

    31. The sun did not form before the earth

    32. No life was created in the laboratory

    33. Earth never had a no oxygen atmosphere

    34. No animal is related to another kind of animal.

    35. DNA is more than just chemicals, it carries information

    36. Mutations do not improve the species

    37. Similar bone structure does not prove common ancestor, proves a common designer

    38. Humans are not related to chimps

    39. Darwin did not prove evolution

    40. Text books do not teach the kids to think critically. They teach them to NOT THINK AT ALL. Arranging animals on paper is not proof.

    41. Archaeopteryx is not part reptile. It's 100% bird

    42. Feather do not evolve from scales

    43. It's not the Christians who just don't believe in evolution, most people don't

    44. Evolution is not a light that illumines all facts.

    45. No evidence for magnetic reversals
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  3. NightmareEx

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    Damn shame (or not, I don't really give a shit) you waste so much of your time trying to peddle your snake oil. No one is dumb enough to buy into your lies that are not backed by real science except those already in your cult. 1-45 are ALL either redundant, irrelevant or incorrect points and just show that you know nothing about the subject.

    Seriously stop wasting your time, none of the atheists here are gullible, and that's clearly what you're looking for.
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  4. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    Then why are they still in the texts books today ? These are our evidence for evolution...if they are irrelevant or incorrect, why keep them in ?

    Because evolution has nothing, they want you to think grandpa is a rock. That's why the lies remain. Get it ?

    Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart: Who being past felling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.

    Ephesians 4:8-20



    So, if 1-43 are incorrect (we both agree then ?) what is evolutions best evidence ?
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  5. NightmareEx

    NightmareEx The Beast

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    Stop lying/misrepresenting. How many times do I have to tell you that does NOT help your cause at all.

    If I must admit something, is that I'm being a bit (a lot) lazy in the leg work of this subject with you. Why? I've seen multiple members (most recently Breathless and Andrya) do the heavy lifting with you and have you fail to refute virtually any of it. So technically if you want to say I'm "ducking" you, go right ahead. Not because evolution would lose - it's empirically true - but because you're just not worth me writing out something informative and genuine.

    You see my lack of belief in god as a religion (because you're a moron) so I'm going to link you to one of my "clergy", who wrote a very interesting article on the subject. It has the appropriate refutations to all your garbage, and if you have a backbone you will try and debunk it's contents.

    Evolution is a Fact and a Theory

    Have at it you fucking tool.
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  6. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    I'll be back with a rebuttal to this fact of evolution. lol

    Thank you for providing that. I don't normally do outside links, but for you I will. You deserve it.

    I am getting to breathless, I have a bout 6 things to go over with him...I am working on it though. In due time.

    Expect a thrashing of that article in a new thread in the next few days.
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  7. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    I'm glossing over the article now. LOL I quote R. C. Lewontin above already. I'm very familiar with his logic. Did you honestly read my OP Night ?

    All he is saying yes it is fact, yes is fact, yes it is fact. Well, where are they ? LOL

    Don't answer me, I'm going pick this apart myself.

    peace.

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    Is that all you got. Dude, seriously cut the BS and see that I'm trying to help you. I'm not showing you how evolution is wrong because it's good for my health, it's for you to see the truth. I care.

    Peace
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  8. NightmareEx

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    If you must know my reasoning for that article before actually "ripping it apart (lol)", it's simply a test to see just how bad your case of Upyourownassitis actually is. The article addresses several misconceptions theists, especially you, have about evolution. It's not the end all be all. Evolutionary biologists, and chemists and people who are experts in all sorts of fields span the whole world. You just worry your simple little brain about that.

    Also, the idea that you're trying to help me...man are you forreal? You can't be..you just can't be. /Coupismostdelusionalmanever
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  9. 2old4thisshit

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    Atheism is only so popular today due to an overwhelming number of lazy minds.
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  10. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    Evolutionary biologists, and chemists and people who are experts in all sorts of fields span the whole world. You just worry your simple little brain about that

    There is that appeal to authority again, most of us do it but don't know it. It's an indoctrination symptom. No joke...IE: you think: They know better. They have it figured out. They. They. Them in la la land somewhere. Guess what ? We are all human. And they don't not have answer on evolution at all. It's a mystical religion, new age bonifide.

    Do you ever wonder why kids are fed comic books as kids ?

    Really think about that. Why do they push them on kids ? Because there is always that hero that will save the day, always that non human geniuses that will fix things for us...That teaches kids to be Dependant not on their own thoughts, but that of the system.

    The system is evolution taught. These 'scientist' do not know for fact evolution is fact. It is not. And they know it, well there are many who believe in it as dogmatically as you. It is a trap religion. No mistake about it.
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  11. NightmareEx

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    Fixed for accuracy.
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  12. NightmareEx

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    I'm seriously about to put you on my ignore list. You are one of the worst, most dishonest people I've had the displeasure of talking to. There is so much unintended irony in this last shit post of your specifically...hope you see it.

    You're absolutely pathetic.
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  13. 2old4thisshit

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    You're not even a good example of an atheist, if you were you wouldn't waste any of your time arguing creation, you're all fucked up in the head and don't even know it.
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  14. TheBigPayback

    TheBigPayback God Particle

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    true.


    Anyonr have a link to the original debate with darwin and the christisn guy that this whole thing arose from. He lost that debate by the way.
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  15. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    Nightmarex if you put me on ignore I think you'll miss out...on life.




    ok not really,but. Don't do that.
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  16. Sir Bustalot

    Sir Bustalot I am Jesus

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    anything you tell yourself over and over can be a mantra

    its not a bad word
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  17. NightmareEx

    NightmareEx The Beast

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    :funny: more weak ass ad homs from stupid theists. Although, this is a hip hop forum so as much as I love the art, it does have a propensity for creating ignorant macho retards.

    You fail. But nice try.
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  18. breathlesss

    breathlesss Registered Sex Offender

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    your superhuman version of jesus is far more comic book characteresque than any scientist to every exist...
    well, stephen hawking is sort of a Professor Xavier analog

    Oh no! it's Fossil Man, with the amazing ability to date dead shit with the help of his sidekick Radiocarbon Girl, better hope The Jeez doesn't get wind of this back at headquarters
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  19. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    just wait for my radio carbon dating thread...

    Then speak.

    This is why you act the fool.
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  20. Sir Bustalot

    Sir Bustalot I am Jesus

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    oh shit the comic book conspiracy!
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