Discussion in 'The Sanctuary' started by TheBigPayback, May 6, 2011.
New book i picked up. Ill see if i find a link
Scientific Facts in the Bible: 100 Reasons to Believe the Bible is Supernatural in Origin (Hidden Wealth Series):Amazon:Books
foreknowledge found only in the Bible offers one more piece to the collective proof that the Bible is truly the inspired Word of the Creator. How does this affect you? The last several pages provide the answer –you need to read them carefully. 1. The earth free-floats in space (Job 26:7), affected only by gravity. While other sources declared the earth sat on the back of an elephant or turtle, or was held up by Atlas, the Bible alone states what we now know to be true –“He hangs the earth on nothing.” Visit: Modern Science In An Ancient (ICR) 2. Creation is made of particles, indiscernible to our eyes (Hebrews 11:3). Not until the 19th century was it discovered that all visible matter consists of invisible elements. Visit: All About Atoms (Jefferson Lab) 3. The Bible specifies the perfect dimensions for a stable water vessel (Genesis 6:15). Ship builders today are well aware that the ideal dimension for ship stability is a length six times that of the width. Keep in mind, God told Noah the ideal dimensions for the ark 4,500 years ago. Visit: The Ark’s perfect dimensions (Answers In Genesis) Safety investigation of Noah’s Ark in a seaway (Answers In Genesis) Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic (Answers In Genesis) 4. When dealing with disease, clothes and body should be washed under running water (Leviticus 15:13). For centuries people naively washed in standing water. Today we recognize the need to wash away germs with fresh water. Visit: -Why do I need to wash my hands? 5. Sanitation industry birthed (Deuteronomy 23:12-13). Some 3,500 years ago God commanded His people to have a place outside the camp where they could relieve themselves. They were to each carry a shovel so that they could dig a hole (latrine) and cover their waste. Up until World War I, more soldiers died from disease than war because they did not isolate human waste. Visit: The First Book Of Public Hygiene (Answers In Genesis) Modern medicine? (Answers In Genesis) 6. Oceans contain springs (Job 38:16). The ocean is very deep. Almost all the ocean floor is in total darkness and the pressure there is enormous. It would have been impossible for Job to have explored the "springs of the sea." Until recently, it was thought that oceans were fed only by rivers and rain. Yet in the 1970s, with the help of deep diving research submarines that were constructed to withstand 6,000 pounds-per-square-inch pressure, oceanographers discovered springs on the ocean floors! Visit: Springs of the Ocean (ICR) 7. There are mountains on the bottom of the ocean floor (Jonah 2:5-6). Only in the last century have we discovered that there are towering mountains and deep trenches in the depths of the sea. Visit: Numerical Simulations Of Precipitation Induced By Hot Mid-Ocean Ridges (ICR) 8.oy and gladness understood (Acts 14:17). Evolution cannot explain emotions. Matter and energy do not feel. Scripture explains that God places gladness in our hearts (Psalm 4:7), and ultimate joy is found only in our Creator’s presence –“in Your presence is fullness of joy” (Psalm 16:11). 9. Blood is the source of life and health (Leviticus 17:11; 14). Up until 120 years ago, sick people were “bled” and many died as a result (e.g. George Washington). Today we know that healthy blood is necessary to bring life-giving nutrients to every cell in the body. God declared that “the life of the flesh is in the blood” long before science understood its function. Visit: Life in the Blood (ICR) 10. The Bible states that God created life according to kinds (Genesis 1:24). The fact that God distinguishes kinds, agrees with what scientists observe –namely that there are horizontal genetic boundaries beyond which life cannot vary. Life produces after its own kind. Dogs produce dogs, cats produce cats, roses produce roses. Never have we witnessed one kind changing into another kind as evolution supposes. There are truly natural limits to biological change. Visit: Things You May Not Know About Evolution (ICR) Creation -Evolution (ICR) Evolution and the Bible (ICR) The Fossil Record: Intermediate Links (ChristianAnswers.net) Archaeopteryx A Feathered Reptile? (ChristianAnswers.net) The Ape-Man: Missing Link (ChristianAnswers.net) Biological Evolution Darwin's Finches (ChristianAnswers.net) 11. Noble behavior understood (John 15:13; Romans 5:7-8). The Bible and history reveal that countless people have endangered or even sacrificed their lives for another. This reality is completely at odds with Darwin’s theory of the survival of the fittest. 12. Chicken or egg dilemma solved (Genesis 1:20-22). Which came first, the chicken or the egg? This question has plagued philosophers for centuries. The Bible states that God created birds with the ability to reproduce after their kind. Therefore the chicken was created first with the ability to make eggs! Yet, evolution has no solution for this dilemma. Visit: What Came First, the Chicken or the Egg? (ICR) The Egg/Chicken Conundrum (ICR) 13. Which came first, proteins or DNA (Revelation 4:11)? For evolutionists, the chicken or egg dilemma goes even deeper. Chickens consist of proteins. The code for each protein is contained in the DNA/RNA system. However, proteins are required in order to manufacture DNA. So which came first: proteins or DNA? The ONLY explanation is that they were created together. Visit: Things that are Made (ICR) Evolution Hopes You Don't Know Chemistry: The Problem with Chirality (ICR) Origin of Life: Critique of Early Stage Chemical Evolution Theories (ICR) The Origin of Life: Theories on the Origin of Biological Order (ICR) 14. Our bodies are made from the dust of the ground (Genesis 2:7; 3:19). Scientists have discovered that the human body is comprised of some 28 base and trace elements –all of which are found in the earth. Visit: The elements of the periodic table sorted by their presence in human body. (Lenntech) The Bible is a Textbook of Science (ICR) 15. The First Law of Thermodynamics established (Genesis 2:1-2). The First Law states that the total quantity of energy and matter in the universe is a constant. One form of energy or matter may be converted into another, but the total quantity always remains the same. Therefore the creation is finished, exactly as God said way back in Genesis. Visit: Modern Scientific Discoveries Verify the Scriptures (Institute For Creation Research) 16. The first three verses of Genesis accurately express all known aspects of the creation (Genesis 1:1-3). Science expresses the universe in terms of: time, space, matter, and energy. In Genesis chapter one we read: “In the beginning (time) God created the heavens (space) and the earth (matter)… Then God said, “Let there be light (energy).” No other creation account agrees with the observable evidence. 17. T
Why didn't the bible say to use antibacterials?
1. The earth free-floats in space (Job 26:7), affected only by gravity
"In fairness this is okay, but is contradicted by Psalm 104:5 "He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved" and is open to some wild interpretations - it's hardly the Bible accurately describing Kepler's laws. This passsage, taken as literally as possible describes that there is nothing under the Earth, hardly compatible with the above which states that the Earth is definitely a sphere. Translations also differ, the New King James Version as well as many others states that he "hangs the world on nothing" (as if to say, that there isn't a hook to hang it on). As it's clear, even to ancient peoples that the Earth (as a disk or sphere) is not a giant hanging basket, it doesn't particularly say much.
Job also goes on to say in the same set of verses that "He covers the face of the full moon, spreading his clouds over it" but we don't see clouds on the moon. At least those peddling Scientific Bible based woo have the option of cherry picking what can and can't be shoehorned into looking like reality. In fact, the entire chapter seems to be more like a bad trip"
Because they kill the soul, obviously.
Like most of the Bible, this appears metaphorical or poetic, but we will waive this point again. This passage mentions springs. Nothing else. Where is the mention of "underwater lakes" made of far more dense salt water, or the deep sea vents that have temperatures well over 100°C? Where does it mention the life that grows by these springs? Again, this is hardly a scientific finding. The rest of this section of Job is also a bit weird, mentioning a lot of things that make no sense, from putting garments on clouds to putting the oceans behind doors, truly this is cherry picking at its finest.
Oceans contain springs (Job 38:16).
"Like most of the Bible, this appears metaphorical or poetic, but we will waive this point again. This passage mentions springs. Nothing else. Where is the mention of "underwater lakes" made of far more dense salt water, or the deep sea vents that have temperatures well over 100°C? Where does it mention the life that grows by these springs? Again, this is hardly a scientific finding. The rest of this section of Job is also a bit weird, mentioning a lot of things that make no sense, from putting garments on clouds to putting the oceans behind doors, truly this is cherry picking at its finest."
"For the life of a creature is in the blood", very true. It is immediately obvious that blood is important. Otherwise "dumb" animals do react badly to their own blood, knowing without even having such higher intelligence associated with (most) humans that is deadly to bleed. The fact that the Bible states this is nothing special, in places it does record some fairly good advice, but it's not particularly scientific or in-depth about it.
A number of myths and half-truths around blood have appeared throughout the ages and recording such is not restricted solely to the Bible, Wikipedia has a list that should keep any interested individual entertained for some time."
Im thinking the world idnt know about that yet . The bible also has the first recorded case of using cpr
Ah, so, your bible is primitive.
Scientific Facts in The Bible
The bible no, ur scientists at that time yes.
dont ignore my post BP
Whats the question
no question. just wondering what ur rebuttal is on what i said about ur "scientic prove"
lol @ "scientific evidences". Would this book happen to be written by Ray Comfort? Everything I've read in this thread is a joke. It all comes down to a couple of very vague primitive observations that people at the time could have made about the world. And for everything in the bible like "wash your clothes in water" which is COMMON SENSE, there are many more things in the bible that we know are false like "the whole world was once flooded all at once" or "the earth, light, water and plants were all made before the sun"...you know things that directly go against what science has proven fact. Bible = bullshit, and comparing it to science is only going to make that fact more transparent.
i think those scientific fact's are SOLID .. and how do u disprove those?
So basically you're saying you can't read then? These "facts" only manage to add up to a 5th grade remedial science class. Congratulations, the bible is as knowledgeable about scientific principles as a 10 year old. The fact that primitive people (mostly through trial and error) could get a couple of common sense things right about the state of the world in no way supports that the bible is divinely inspired. And like I said, for every common sense thing that someone in the bible gets right there are 10 other things that are laughably wrong, and those things are far more important.
the bible isn't intended to be a scientific study of how mankind behaves it's a psychological ideal that is purposed to effect how man behaves. So to restrict the bible into something that wasn't yet understandable to MAN @ that time, is like tryna discredit science for not being able to explain at this point WHY the psychology of the bible is effective.
1. Leadership Ability Determines a Person's Level of Effectiveness
2. The True Measure of Leadership Is Influence---Nothing More, Nothing Less
3. Leadership Develops Daily, Not in a Day
4. Anyone Can Steer the Ship, But It Takes a Leader to Chart the Course
5. When the Real Leader Speaks, People Listen
6. Trust is the Foundation of Leadership
7. People Naturally Follow Leaders Stronger Than Themselves
8. Leaders Evaluate Everything With A Leadership Bias
9. Who You Are Is Who You Attract
10. Leaders Touch A Heart Before They Ask For A Hand
11. A Leader's Potential Is Determined By Those Closest To Him
12. Only Secure Leaders Give Power to Others
13. It Takes A Leader to Raise Up A Leader
14. People Buy Into the Leaders, Then the Vision
15. Leaders Find a Way for the Team to Win
16. Momentum Is A Leader's Best Friend
17. Leaders Understand That Activity Is Not Necessarily Accomplishment
18. A Leader Must Give Up to Go Up
19. When to Lead Is As Important As What To Do and Where To Go
20. To Add Growth, Lead Followers---To Multiply, Lead Leaders
21. A Leader's Lasting Value is Measured by Succession
all 21 laws fell right into place for the christian church to survive and grow into what it has became. how do a primitive culture establish such a civilized structure that lasted the sands of times?
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